The RPG Scam

Alright... so I got out the old SNES and played Mario RPG and Final Fantasy 3 last week, and suddenly it dawned on me that new RPGs are so much shorter and simpler than the old. This kind of sucks. We've lost all of the bonus hours of fun game play and actually hidden side quests for a decent- graphics short and straight forward RPG. This isn't only in the turn-based section either~ look at the Zeldas! The old ones were 10x better and a lot more challenging. Is this just me or have RPGs gone down hill since SNES (except for graphics of coarse). What RPG games are you looking for for VC?me= Majora's Mask, FinalFantasy3, Pokemon (if they ever bring out GB games, will they?), and Mario RPGand, one quick question... does nintendo still have the rights to the old RARE games like Donkey Kong Country and the old Final Fantasies?The RPG Scam
What do you mean they've been ''getting worse''. I think the Sqaure games have gotten worse though, after they turned into sqaure enix.I do enjoy Tales of Symphonia (that was sort of recent, a few years old). Can't wait for the 2nd one.and I wish they could get the rights for chrono trigger so we can get it on the VC. The RPG Scam
You're just getting older and have come across puzzles you've seen before... It's like the Zelda series: You see an eye, what do you shoot it with? We all know...
Zelda is not an RPG, first of all.



Second, I do agree that the overall quality of RPGs has decreased, but it would be ridiculous to claim that there are no good ones to be found these days.
all games have gotten easier, and shorter, and not as many bonus material to unlock and what not.
They've gotten easier, but the fact that you're older and more educated helps as well.
[QUOTE=''SmashBrosLegend'']Zelda is not an RPG, first of all. Second, I do agree that the overall quality of RPGs has decreased, but it would be ridiculous to claim that there are no good ones to be found these days.[/QUOTE] What are you talking about Zelda isnt an RPG? its a role playing game and yes it is.
[QUOTE=''Cloud_in_midgar''][QUOTE=''SmashBrosLegend'']Zelda is not an RPG, first of all. Second, I do agree that the overall quality of RPGs has decreased, but it would be ridiculous to claim that there are no good ones to be found these days.[/QUOTE] What are you talking about Zelda isnt an RPG? its a role playing game and yes it is.[/QUOTE]
It is an adventure game with life earning elements.

I don't know dude, I remember there being a helluva lot of extra stuff to do in Kingdom Hearts 1 %26 2, and in FF10. But, you are right and wrong. Right that some games maybe don't have as much, but do you consider that maybe you don't want to put in all of the time that you used to for games.
Also to your other question, Square-Enix owns Final Fantasy and Nintendo owns all Donkey Kong and Starfox Characters.
Your so right, the SNES and PS1 had the best RPGs of our time.ON the VC I'd like to see... Chrono Trigger, Secret Of Evermore, Final Fantasy III (6), and Secret Of Mana.Right now i'm going through all the classic RPGs I'm on Xenogears right now and really enjoying it, It's not the best game but still fun for what it is.
[QUOTE=''EmilioDigsIt''][QUOTE=''Cloud_in_midgar''][QUOTE=''SmashBrosLegend'']Zelda is not an RPG, first of all. Second, I do agree that the overall quality of RPGs has decreased, but it would be ridiculous to claim that there are no good ones to be found these days.[/QUOTE] What are you talking about Zelda isnt an RPG? its a role playing game and yes it is.[/QUOTE]
It is an adventure game with life earning elements.
[/QUOTE]Zelda is an Action based RPG, like Dark Cloud, ICO, Shadow Of The Colossus, Crystalis etc...They should make a new category ABRPG or ARPG.
zelda is not an rpg, theres no lvling up, no attributes and other rpg stuff
Worse? If anything they've been getting better. I've played through FF1-12 and 1-4 we're all dull stories:
(CRYSTLAS EITHER SHATTERED OR STOLEN; VILLIAN A IS ACTUALLY A GOOD GUY BEING CONTROLLED BY VILLIAN B; CRYSTAL WARRIORS FIND THEM AND SAVE THEM ALL) YAWNFF7,8,10 have had the most DEPTH of ANY RPG story imo to this date. Let's not forget about Xenogears either. All of these games have at least 40 hours of gameplay too; and how much did FF1-4 have...? about 30-40! Your post is not very meaninful, sorry
[QUOTE=''Bass7'']What do you mean they've been ''getting worse''. I think the Sqaure games have gotten worse though, after they turned into sqaure enix.I do enjoy Tales of Symphonia (that was sort of recent, a few years old). Can't wait for the 2nd one.and I wish they could get the rights for chrono trigger so we can get it on the VC. [/QUOTE]Well,I think it's good to say that Squaresoft made RPGs and the new Square-Enix makes Action RPGs XD
Games in general are shorter and easier than they wereten years ago.
Final Fantasy VII was after SNES. /thread
Final Fantasy games have definetly gone down the tubes. I used to own them all, but I got rid of my FF9, and FFXII because neither game appealed to me (story or character wise), and the use of mini-games to increase the gameplay time drove me nuts. I don't want to spend hours using a chocobo to dig up pictures so I can find Ragnarok. FFX had the same mini-game problem, but the story was interesting and the characters caught my attention enough to keep me into the game. Codebreaker took care of the mini-game problem (haha, no more dodging lightning bolts until my thumbs fall off). While FFX, FF7, and FF8 aren't going to be able to compete with FF4 and FF6 they are still great games.My RPG collection hasn't grown by much this last year. Some of the best RPGs out of the last few years have been limited to the Xenogears (horrible gameplay, but love the story and characters), and Oblivion GoTY Edition (my only PS3 game). Everything else I have purchased last year included Witcher, and Neverwinter Nights 2 for the PC. I keep hoping Shining Force will go back to its SRPG roots, and Shining in the Darkness type play.
[QUOTE=''slimdave21'']Your so right, the SNES and PS1 had the best RPGs of our time.ON the VC I'd like to see... Chrono Trigger, Secret Of Evermore, Final Fantasy III (6), and Secret Of Mana.Right now i'm going through all the classic RPGs I'm on Xenogears right now and really enjoying it, It's not the best game but still fun for what it is.[/QUOTE]thank you. like the old final fantasies? oh! so good!
zelda twighlight princess was really long for me, but it is true i did not feel like doing those side quest, they did not seem worth it while _orcarina of time_ had swords or extra magic... to collect from those side quest